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Membership upgrades

Hi

I noticed the following answer to someone who had asked about upgrades once they have completed level 3 - 

'As you have completed your Level 3 Foundation qualification you will be retrospectively awarded Associate, CIPD's first level of professional membership from 31 January 2014'

Is this something new as I had to go though an upgrade process and submit a report? Is this also going to change when you have completed the level 7 diploma for Chartered status or will that still require another assessment?

 

Lynette 

  • David

    | 19412 Posts

    Chartered Member

    1 Jan, 2014 17:19

     Hi Lynette

     see

    http://www.cipd.co.uk/membership/professional/associate-membership.aspx

    (But it remains a total mystery to me, as to why on earth CIPD appears to embrace competence-based qualifications but suddenly gives up doing so for 'professional' level.)   

  • Thanks David

    i am absolutely amazed that once you do the level 3 you are going to be automatically upgraded to the same level of membership as someone who has done the level 7 - there will be many people who do the level 3 with an aim to moving into HR who may not even be working in a HR role who will be able to use the words "Assoc CIPD" after their name. The level 7 qualification is a completely different ball game in terms of complexity, having to do exams to test your competence and the commitment you have to make yet what is there at the end of it if your work experience will not quite suffice to allow you to pass the Chartered level assessment and you must remain an Associate member??? It just doesn't make sense or provide any incentive.

    I know at the end of the day that the title is just a bunch of words but surely there has to be some reward for the two years you give up to undertake a "masters" level qualification that costs you the earth...I feel quite disappointed..gob-smacked even....

    Lynette

  • David

    | 19412 Posts

    Chartered Member

    2 Jan, 2014 11:39

    Afraid I don't see anything too wrong about this, Lynette: look at the Associate being at 'Technician' level and Chartered Member at complete professional level, which seems broadly to fit into National Quals. Framework.
  • I know what you're saying and I agree in terms of the Chartered Member being a different level as a complete professional- it just doesn't make sense that if you complete the level 3 you automatically are awarded Assoc membership when you haven't had to be assessed to demonstrate your competence which is what you have to do to upgrade to Chartered level. So in effect everyone who does a level 3,5 or 7 qualification will remain the same.

    Many employers still advertise for Chartered CIPD as essential for a vacancy (as they find the new structure quite complicated to understand) and there will be people who have passed level 7 who are looking for promotion into higher level roles but haven't had quite enough experience to pass the upgrade who will therefore not be eligible to apply - this does happen.


  • I've just seen this post and I'm in the situation that you mentioned Laura.  I have the full Level 7 qualification however I can't upgrade to Chartered Member as I don't have experience at the relevant level in order to apply.  This isn't really an issue as I understand that I have a way to go before I can gain that level of membership.  It does, however, feel unfair that I spent 4 years studying at evening classes in order to gain the Assoc CIPD accreditation (going through Licentiate, Graduate etc), whereas colleagues who have only completed the Level 3 certificate (which I understand is equivalent to the CPP) can now automatically get the same.  Surely there should be some kind of distinction around the level of understanding that people have? 

  • David

    | 19412 Posts

    Chartered Member

    3 May, 2014 16:25

    Hi Stephanie.

     I do sympathize, but taking an impersonal and 'macro' view, repeat in similar vein to previous comments that IMHO  this has been a quite understandable and reasonable  change to the qualifications structure and you unfortunately have 'lost out' as a result of the transition. But this doesn't necessarily mean that there weren't good and valid long-term reasons for making the change, which ultimately will apply universally, without any transitional anomalies. Some concessions to mitigate these transitional effects on those caught-up in it might have helped ease things, but assume these were considered and not found workable.

     

     

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